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In a few months (got to save up the money), I'll be getting my first Mac.  I keep hearing about how, while nothing is absolute, no-one seems to run any kind of antivirus softwear on apple products.  The local Apple Store (MacMan, cute name) has been around since the mid 90's, and they say in all that time, their BUSINESS computers have never had any.  They claim never to have had a problem.  Not that I don't believe them, but I'm looking for some (read many) second opinions.  Antivirus, firewalls, maitenance software?  None?  Really?

On my Win7 machine, I'm running Norton 360.  I've always run Norton, always hated it bogging things down and interfering with various processes, but always trusted it.  However, if I can loose all or most of this stuff, on a Mac, that would almost be worth switching, all by itself.

Is being this nervous about not having any web security stuff installed a normal thing for those who switch OS's, or am I just being a wuss?

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Wuss? Nope not at all.

No computer is safe, In Fact If hackers actually wanted to attack Mac's they'd have alot more problems then windows at this point, because Apple is very inexperienced with this, and they Mis lead their "Cult loyal subjects" very highly. Never the less for whatever reasons you are switching from a great OS like windows 7, Your not a wuss for still thinking about your personal information and all that, i mean after all It's still a computer, it's connected to the internet! Your vulnerable no matter what anyway! and no OS is safe, and No Computer or software maker Provider Can gurantee you that 100%.

Anti virus software/Firewalls do exist for the mac, Discontinue using Norton 360, On ur windows 7 and Get Microsoft's Security Essentials suite, I promise you myself 100% satisfaction.

This right here is also a great one for the Mac and pc.

Thanks, Gibson.

I think I'd have put some sort of security suit on my Mac, no matter what anyone should say.  I do appreciate opinions from experienced users.  Not sure how to tell who is or isn't such, with any certainty, on the boards.  But, as for Win7, I've certainly got nothing specific against it, and will continue to both use and follow Microsoft products, in future.  I'm 43, and busier every day, with other things than keeping my households many computers and mobile devices up and running.  And while Win7 is a breath of fresh air, after XP and Vista (MS could've at least kissed us first, before Vista), I've been looking at Apple for around a year now, and have just really gotten to like the style, cleanliness, and minimalistic design approach they take.  And, I must admit, the fit and finish of their hardware is just plane sexy. So, to put it simply, I've been wooed.  I'll still have 3 Windows machines, in-house.  But for day to day, I think I'll be getting a 13" Mac Book Air.  When I get the urge to tinker, I'll be back on the Windows Machines.

Thanks, again, for the reply.  And for the link.

No problem. You should keep in mind though it's not apple that's making the so called "sexy machines' lol.

Apple is all cookie cutter machine. No imagination... one size fits all, gaudy eye candy. 20 years of Mac experience here in the graphics industry. I'll never own one, too may problems. Win 7 is the ultimate OS to date. Apple only THINKS they are the best OS, and they get you to think it too. persuasive advertising, but to me it's just kid stuff. And their back compatibility is horrible. : /

I second Gibson on this one.   Doesn't matter what OS your using, as long as you have a line to the outside world theirs always the chance something can get in.   No don't get me wrong, on a mac thats solely used for a small business, the odds of getting a virus are probably pretty nill as long as your not doing anything personal on it.   On the home side though, its free reign.   Just like Gibson said, Apple likes to promote the fact that they are safer than a windows machine, which isn't the case at all.   If there was a flaw that gets exploited on osx, and a massive virus gets sent out, how well is apple really suited to stop it?   The thing is that they've never really been tested by something like that.   So my answer to the question of if you should have a security suite on a mac? is simply you wanna be their guinea pig when it happens?   Because it will


he said it better then me lol.

I think the chances of getting a virus on any computer even as far back as windows xp is pretty low for businesses, That are only using it for office work. The amount of security software and measures that some businesses have one would have to be purposely wanting to hack and upload a virus via usb or what not in order to do it, or be a very skilled hacker, Witch would also be do able on a mac with the same measures, and sadly witch computer would be more capable of fighting it off, The Pc. Never the less He is right, Soley for small business use, I'm 100% doubtful of any security risks however, Still wise to consider a software, and if i might recommend more, don't get any software from Apple themselves, they are not experienced enough, Do some Google work, Programs like Avast, Nod32, AVG, Make Mac security softwares. Anything else like "MAC ANTI VIRUS" MACFIREWALL, Avoid those actually, alot of them are mac related malware themselves.

Well, guys, it's a moot point now.  Just pulled the trigger on a fully decked 13" Macbook Air.  The multi-month time table turned into a few hours of making the final decision when I was approved for Apple's 12 month, no interest financing.  So it's on it's way.  Now that I've actually done this, I actually feel a little weird about buying a Mac, after a lifetime of using Windows.  It's almost a type of guilty feeling.  Not the, "My God, I just did something unforgivable!", kind; but more like you feel after you've done something that's undeniably fun, but just a little naughty.  Kind of like I just 'should' feel guilty, but just can't seem to work up to it.  But that's just background.  The rest of me just wants to get my hands on all of that pretty, milled aluminum goodness.  Feel like a kid, what with getting ready to delve into this new O.S.  Wish me luck, and thank you for taking the time to give advice on this.  I'll be getting some sort of protective software.  Just don't know which, yet.

Drank the koolade. I'm sorry too.

Hey, guys, I happen to like Koolade!  Jones would've had a rough time with me, though.  HATE that grape stuff !!

Cute graphic, though, MV3.

If you wind up not liking it, it won't be hard to sell it back for the 1-200$ less then what paid for it.

Too late, Gibson, I'm in love; or at least thoroughly infatuated.  The hardware on this thing (fit and finish, keyboard, battery life, etc.) is head and shoulders above anything I am used to, in a laptop.  And after about 24 hours to get used to the basics of how OS X works, I'm finding most things surprisingly intuitive.  Thought for sure I'd have troubles adjusting to this new OS, after what amounts to a lifetime (I can remember when the TRS-80 mod. 4 was considered a geeks paradise, at least in my school.) of Windows.  But other than a few road bumps, all is well.

So, don't worry about me, I'll be just fine.  For those who would call me a 'Koolaid Drinker', though, they should know that I've only had this thing for a bit over 24 hours, and I'm already looking into either bootcamping, or running something like Parallels, to check out the consumer preview of Win8.  Still have the same interest in Windows, but the way this is working out, I think it'll be just that, as time goes on.  Looks like Apple's OS X has everything I need, with a better finish, running on hardware more suited to my needs, and from what I've already downloaded from the App Store, with software that's not only more  polished and optimized for my level of use, but at a better price.  For me, and I emphasize those first two words, it's a far better fit.  I'm genuinely enjoying myself, with this machine.  Haven't found one pain-point, to speak of.  That edgy feeling I spoke of in my first few posts is no more.  Now, I'm just excited about delving into a completely new OS.  Haven't done anything like that in years.

Thanks to you and the rest for the advice.  Even the (well-intentioned, I'm sure) attempts at a MS intervention were fun to read.

I think the best, honest and most straight forward review I have seen about Windows to Mac transition was a from a guy that's not here anymore. He was the same.... in love with it initially... then the cracks started showing up in a few weeks, by 6 months he was no longer "in love" due to many of OS.10xx's own inherent problems. He gave us a blow by blow description of his issues... believe me, no matter how or what you think, Macs are no paradise. Nice toys for fooling around with your social pals and pretty glossy smilie graphics so you can feel all arm fuzzy and cozy in the private little Mac club, but no serious intensive or demanding work.

Gibson you remember him, I cant think of his name off the top of my head, he was an Aussie, but he was a always objective about everything.


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